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		<title>By: Colby Maheia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colby Maheia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How soon does the chance trial expire?</description>
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		<title>By: asianlunatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>asianlunatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to hear about your predicament.. i have seen his name at many places before.. he even contacted me once to join his giveaway, i think..

Hopefully, you somehow manage to get this guy stopped ..

&lt;em&gt;asianlunatic's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://asianlunatic.org/2008/06/zemanta-a-blogger%e2%80%99s-apprentice/' rel="nofollow"&gt;Zemanta - a bloggerâ€™s apprentice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to hear about your predicament.. i have seen his name at many places before.. he even contacted me once to join his giveaway, i think..</p>
<p>Hopefully, you somehow manage to get this guy stopped ..</p>
<p><em>asianlunatic&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://asianlunatic.org/2008/06/zemanta-a-blogger%e2%80%99s-apprentice/' rel="nofollow">Zemanta - a bloggerâ€™s apprentice</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: ton</title>
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		<dc:creator>ton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..go get 'im, before he make money..:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..go get &#8216;im, before he make money..:)</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Vince,

I remember the 16 hour workdays, I still do them now and again and heaven knows I have tons of work ahead of me. Let me take a look at your website and see if I can 'restructure your site. I'm not expert but I do like to dink around building websites. And, you need to get away from safelists ect... Don't waste anymore of your time clicking. You have a real commitment but you need to take a different direction. 

Take Guidos advice with the blogging, social sites and join the profit work from home site. It's really a great way to start. 

And to Daniel , There's no time like the present to come clean and redeem your self. There is no honor and no dignity and it doesn't matter how big you are, in the pen, everyone gets it up the but.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Vince,</p>
<p>I remember the 16 hour workdays, I still do them now and again and heaven knows I have tons of work ahead of me. Let me take a look at your website and see if I can &#8216;restructure your site. I&#8217;m not expert but I do like to dink around building websites. And, you need to get away from safelists ect&#8230; Don&#8217;t waste anymore of your time clicking. You have a real commitment but you need to take a different direction. </p>
<p>Take Guidos advice with the blogging, social sites and join the profit work from home site. It&#8217;s really a great way to start. </p>
<p>And to Daniel , There&#8217;s no time like the present to come clean and redeem your self. There is no honor and no dignity and it doesn&#8217;t matter how big you are, in the pen, everyone gets it up the but.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vince,

you are definately on a path to success... the actions you take are exactly what I've done just a couple of months ago. Now it's time for you to implement further strategies like blogging, social marketing, bookmarking and of course being a contributor to giveaway events.

As a giveaway contributor you want to build your own opt-in list. It doesn't matter if you don't have any signups yet... you know how to promote the events through safelists, click exchanges etc. so that's fine. After your first giveaway event you'll have a small list, so that with your next event you can sponsor more people, get a higher gift listing and therefore even more signups. 

If you haven't had a look at my latest creation the Profit Work From Home, then you should go there now as it's the perfect place for you to get further with your marketing: http://www.profitworkfromhome.com

Let me know if you have any questions.

Guido Nussbaum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vince,</p>
<p>you are definately on a path to success&#8230; the actions you take are exactly what I&#8217;ve done just a couple of months ago. Now it&#8217;s time for you to implement further strategies like blogging, social marketing, bookmarking and of course being a contributor to giveaway events.</p>
<p>As a giveaway contributor you want to build your own opt-in list. It doesn&#8217;t matter if you don&#8217;t have any signups yet&#8230; you know how to promote the events through safelists, click exchanges etc. so that&#8217;s fine. After your first giveaway event you&#8217;ll have a small list, so that with your next event you can sponsor more people, get a higher gift listing and therefore even more signups. </p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t had a look at my latest creation the Profit Work From Home, then you should go there now as it&#8217;s the perfect place for you to get further with your marketing: <a href="http://www.profitworkfromhome.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.profitworkfromhome.com</a></p>
<p>Let me know if you have any questions.</p>
<p>Guido Nussbaum</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 01:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone

I've been watching all of the comments and certainly do appreciate that someone/everyone is keeping an eye out for people that feel that they need to do things the easy way.

I launched my site back in March and have seen very little success (blushing) actually NO success. I knew when I got into launching my site that I wouldn't see any success for some time. I work hard at trying to make it successful and am constantly looking for the right products.

What bothers me about this whole thing, is that I work hard (almost 16 hours a day) to create a site that's going to succeed. I'm also disabled so I don't have the cash to throw away, especially on products that aren't doing anything for me.

Because I'm on a limited income I have to advertise through FFA ads, Traffic Exchanges (which can be very tedious if you don't have the time for a Manual Exchange), Safelists and any other venue out there.

I receive about 1000 emails a day due to the safelist programs and I have to click on every email if I want to get points so that I can advertise. Some days that's all I do is click, click, click. As I've told you before.... I spend about 16 hours a day on my computer in hopes of someday becoming successful.

It's because of my hard work that I know I'll be successful sometime in the near future (I hope). I know that I have to restructure my site in order to start building a mailing list. My challenge is that I don't know how to work with php and cgi. I have to go through the task of learning everything from scratch as this is my first time ever trying to become an IM.

I guess what I'm trying to convey is that with hard work and due diligence anyone can become a success. You shouldn't have to be in a position to take someone elses work and claim it as your own without the rights to do so. Part of what's going on with IM is building a credible relationship with everyone. I'm just in my infancy stage right now so that's something I'm trying to do with every safelist mailing that I send out. Even being on a fixed income, I'm taking the time to do everything the right way. Personally I'd love to be a part of a Joint Venture Giveaway just to get my name out there. I know I have enough products to do so. My only challenge is having a list to advertise the event to other than the safelists, and I don't know if that qualifies.

All I can say at this point is... put an honest effort into your work and build your reputation by providing things honestly.

As for the rest of you guys out there.... thanks for the heads up. I recognize quite a few names here and look forward to doing business with you.

For now I'm just going keep my eyes open for anything or anyone that comes across as suspicious to me.

Again... put in the honest work and you can become sucessful in time (name??)

Good luck everyone  :)

Vince</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching all of the comments and certainly do appreciate that someone/everyone is keeping an eye out for people that feel that they need to do things the easy way.</p>
<p>I launched my site back in March and have seen very little success (blushing) actually NO success. I knew when I got into launching my site that I wouldn&#8217;t see any success for some time. I work hard at trying to make it successful and am constantly looking for the right products.</p>
<p>What bothers me about this whole thing, is that I work hard (almost 16 hours a day) to create a site that&#8217;s going to succeed. I&#8217;m also disabled so I don&#8217;t have the cash to throw away, especially on products that aren&#8217;t doing anything for me.</p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m on a limited income I have to advertise through FFA ads, Traffic Exchanges (which can be very tedious if you don&#8217;t have the time for a Manual Exchange), Safelists and any other venue out there.</p>
<p>I receive about 1000 emails a day due to the safelist programs and I have to click on every email if I want to get points so that I can advertise. Some days that&#8217;s all I do is click, click, click. As I&#8217;ve told you before&#8230;. I spend about 16 hours a day on my computer in hopes of someday becoming successful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s because of my hard work that I know I&#8217;ll be successful sometime in the near future (I hope). I know that I have to restructure my site in order to start building a mailing list. My challenge is that I don&#8217;t know how to work with php and cgi. I have to go through the task of learning everything from scratch as this is my first time ever trying to become an IM.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m trying to convey is that with hard work and due diligence anyone can become a success. You shouldn&#8217;t have to be in a position to take someone elses work and claim it as your own without the rights to do so. Part of what&#8217;s going on with IM is building a credible relationship with everyone. I&#8217;m just in my infancy stage right now so that&#8217;s something I&#8217;m trying to do with every safelist mailing that I send out. Even being on a fixed income, I&#8217;m taking the time to do everything the right way. Personally I&#8217;d love to be a part of a Joint Venture Giveaway just to get my name out there. I know I have enough products to do so. My only challenge is having a list to advertise the event to other than the safelists, and I don&#8217;t know if that qualifies.</p>
<p>All I can say at this point is&#8230; put an honest effort into your work and build your reputation by providing things honestly.</p>
<p>As for the rest of you guys out there&#8230;. thanks for the heads up. I recognize quite a few names here and look forward to doing business with you.</p>
<p>For now I&#8217;m just going keep my eyes open for anything or anyone that comes across as suspicious to me.</p>
<p>Again&#8230; put in the honest work and you can become sucessful in time (name??)</p>
<p>Good luck everyone  <img src='http://www.easy-viral-traffic.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Vince</p>
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		<title>By: Marshell Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshell Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 12:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point here is he/she/it is a thief! Right down and dirty, a thief. I do not care HOW much money someone has, it's NOT complaining about it to tell others about being scammed. These guys are doing this to expose this so WE do not get scammed.

We where scammed to the tune of$2,500; it's why I'm poor now; the reason I must start over. And I did broadcast it to all I could at the time.

We all need to stick together and boot these a**holes off the net.This is our society, so to speak, and we are gonna half to police it, because the cops don't. At least, not for this!

Trust is the basis of our businesses on the net. No matter how big or small you are, if people begin to distrust you for any reason, it can and does spread like wild fire; just look at this blog!

One person blogs there distrust to someones else's public blog and it goes crazy! Next thing it's all over the net, and that person's good name is smeared.

A lot of people get on here and hide behind other names, claiming it's for there security. I do not believe in that, I feel we should use our real names, since we have nothing to hide. Do you go to McDonald's and tell someone there you name is Sam when it's Tom? Why not? Because if you come face to face with them at a friends house, how are you going to explain why you lied? And, will they really ever trust you after that?

When someone uses your good name and rep to build a shady spot for themselves, we SHOULD cut down there tree and remove there stump from the net!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point here is he/she/it is a thief! Right down and dirty, a thief. I do not care HOW much money someone has, it&#8217;s NOT complaining about it to tell others about being scammed. These guys are doing this to expose this so WE do not get scammed.</p>
<p>We where scammed to the tune of$2,500; it&#8217;s why I&#8217;m poor now; the reason I must start over. And I did broadcast it to all I could at the time.</p>
<p>We all need to stick together and boot these a**holes off the net.This is our society, so to speak, and we are gonna half to police it, because the cops don&#8217;t. At least, not for this!</p>
<p>Trust is the basis of our businesses on the net. No matter how big or small you are, if people begin to distrust you for any reason, it can and does spread like wild fire; just look at this blog!</p>
<p>One person blogs there distrust to someones else&#8217;s public blog and it goes crazy! Next thing it&#8217;s all over the net, and that person&#8217;s good name is smeared.</p>
<p>A lot of people get on here and hide behind other names, claiming it&#8217;s for there security. I do not believe in that, I feel we should use our real names, since we have nothing to hide. Do you go to McDonald&#8217;s and tell someone there you name is Sam when it&#8217;s Tom? Why not? Because if you come face to face with them at a friends house, how are you going to explain why you lied? And, will they really ever trust you after that?</p>
<p>When someone uses your good name and rep to build a shady spot for themselves, we SHOULD cut down there tree and remove there stump from the net!!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrique Siler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrique Siler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think you missed one:

DLVINEYARD@HOTMAIL.COM

He is one sending email regarding the $39.00 super gallery.

The website is too much and looks very suspicious!

No need to save this one he will BURN!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think you missed one:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:DLVINEYARD@HOTMAIL.COM">DLVINEYARD@HOTMAIL.COM</a></p>
<p>He is one sending email regarding the $39.00 super gallery.</p>
<p>The website is too much and looks very suspicious!</p>
<p>No need to save this one he will BURN!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on you guys... be realistic. I'm not complaining that someone has stolen an ebook or a simple mini application. I didn't even do much wth the stolen copy of the Giveaway Announcer that's running for a long time already on his domains. 

The point here is that he runs a giveaway event with a stolen software. He basically invites us to come and join his event and to promote for him... that's more than rude.

He just could have done marketing under his real name and ask for a JV or something. Every newbie, especially with his energy, can make it to a big marketer.  But sorry, here is no space for scammers... internet marketing means building up trust with our customers and we need to work hard for that. 

Guido</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on you guys&#8230; be realistic. I&#8217;m not complaining that someone has stolen an ebook or a simple mini application. I didn&#8217;t even do much wth the stolen copy of the Giveaway Announcer that&#8217;s running for a long time already on his domains. </p>
<p>The point here is that he runs a giveaway event with a stolen software. He basically invites us to come and join his event and to promote for him&#8230; that&#8217;s more than rude.</p>
<p>He just could have done marketing under his real name and ask for a JV or something. Every newbie, especially with his energy, can make it to a big marketer.  But sorry, here is no space for scammers&#8230; internet marketing means building up trust with our customers and we need to work hard for that. </p>
<p>Guido</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never said i was going to physically touch you Mr Drake NOW did i now.

I have no interest in what ever disease you have or what is wrong with you, so saying something like that to me im not really bothered about your problems.

Go ahead and visit the address that is stated above, im not sure who is living there but im sure if you go around to his address i bet hed have something to say to you wouldn’t he.

You see im actually on a wireless connection at the moment, and every thing i do on the internet is down over wireless unless i need to get bigger files then i visit the library, so you see, registering domains and doing what i do won’t come back to me, it will come back to those whos wireless connection it is.

For the sake of around $400 for digital theft isnt going to damage my life at all, yes i have been around using different names to sign up to giveaways and other websites and i know of alot of other internet users who do the same, its not illegal to do that.

You see the thing that gets me is that every one who posts on blogs and the warrior forum, think that im a nasty person, well who are they to judge me, i bet you and everyone else has some relation who is a criminal or knows of someone who has been to the Pen, so you see if i can stir up so much trouble for a measily $400 bucks then what kind of trouble would i get into if i took something for $500???

You wanna know the main reason why this has come about.

I dindnt hack around the paypal buttons on any of the sites, of course i was interested in the Giveaway manager who isnt its a good peice of internet marketers Kit.#

I was originally sent a email from a subscriber who is on quite alot of lists, the email went on to ask me if i wanted a copy of Giveaway Manager and Giveaway Announcer, for a reduced price, of course i jumped before i thought about it.

The email stated that i was to join both site to which i had already done so, and once i had joined i was to send my ID to the person, he then sent me a html document with the PayPal Payment options on it, i had to pay Hime $97 and then i would have to pay for the 2 bits of software.

Once i paid him for the software, and paid the sites thers i would be able to download the software from within the sites but would have to wait upto 1 hour.

To be quite honest i didnt really think much at the time, i just went ahead and paid for it.

Guess what my email inbox was hit with messages From Brad And Guido, telling me i had hacked around the paypal buttons {NOT ME}.

I then sent Guido some info and he basically told me i was lying, HENCE i dint send the money.

Then Brad steps in and i explain all the above to him, i then get given 7 days to pay for the software, {NO NOT YET} i wasnt going to loose my money and then pay for the software, {NO NO NO i carnt do that}.

I emailed brads support center and never eeceived a reply {BRAD STATES THAT THERE ARE 3 USERS THAT MONITOR HIS SUPPRT} all i know is that i sent the email stating the above about paying.

I am still awaiting money from my subscriber, {HENCE NO PAYMENT TO BRAD} forget GUIDO he called me a theif so NO payment to HIM,

Then all of a sudden i get blasted by everyone, about opening up JOKEBOXGIVEAWAY, then all of a sudden i get tones of emails with threats.

Do you all think im going to pay for it NOW.

The jokebox giveaway was opened so i could raise the rest of the money to pay for the software To date prior to opening the JOKEBOXGIVEAWAY i have just under $100 all i needed to do was grab a few signups and then speak to brad and get the mess sorted out.

SO as of now i dont think i should Pay the money to any of them because of there actions against me.

My Real Name isnt in question here the fact that i had purchased the scrip from someone other than the originator is in question.

Yes my PayPal account has been suspended but i know i have 180 days and then they have to payout to me anyway.

So ll i can say it that im sorry, not that any of you really care, you may all say im shi**ing it but im not, im not really bothered about going to the Pen at all, i think im big enought to look after myself.

So with all that said, im off look foorward to see some responses

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never said i was going to physically touch you Mr Drake NOW did i now.</p>
<p>I have no interest in what ever disease you have or what is wrong with you, so saying something like that to me im not really bothered about your problems.</p>
<p>Go ahead and visit the address that is stated above, im not sure who is living there but im sure if you go around to his address i bet hed have something to say to you wouldn’t he.</p>
<p>You see im actually on a wireless connection at the moment, and every thing i do on the internet is down over wireless unless i need to get bigger files then i visit the library, so you see, registering domains and doing what i do won’t come back to me, it will come back to those whos wireless connection it is.</p>
<p>For the sake of around $400 for digital theft isnt going to damage my life at all, yes i have been around using different names to sign up to giveaways and other websites and i know of alot of other internet users who do the same, its not illegal to do that.</p>
<p>You see the thing that gets me is that every one who posts on blogs and the warrior forum, think that im a nasty person, well who are they to judge me, i bet you and everyone else has some relation who is a criminal or knows of someone who has been to the Pen, so you see if i can stir up so much trouble for a measily $400 bucks then what kind of trouble would i get into if i took something for $500???</p>
<p>You wanna know the main reason why this has come about.</p>
<p>I dindnt hack around the paypal buttons on any of the sites, of course i was interested in the Giveaway manager who isnt its a good peice of internet marketers Kit.#</p>
<p>I was originally sent a email from a subscriber who is on quite alot of lists, the email went on to ask me if i wanted a copy of Giveaway Manager and Giveaway Announcer, for a reduced price, of course i jumped before i thought about it.</p>
<p>The email stated that i was to join both site to which i had already done so, and once i had joined i was to send my ID to the person, he then sent me a html document with the PayPal Payment options on it, i had to pay Hime $97 and then i would have to pay for the 2 bits of software.</p>
<p>Once i paid him for the software, and paid the sites thers i would be able to download the software from within the sites but would have to wait upto 1 hour.</p>
<p>To be quite honest i didnt really think much at the time, i just went ahead and paid for it.</p>
<p>Guess what my email inbox was hit with messages From Brad And Guido, telling me i had hacked around the paypal buttons {NOT ME}.</p>
<p>I then sent Guido some info and he basically told me i was lying, HENCE i dint send the money.</p>
<p>Then Brad steps in and i explain all the above to him, i then get given 7 days to pay for the software, {NO NOT YET} i wasnt going to loose my money and then pay for the software, {NO NO NO i carnt do that}.</p>
<p>I emailed brads support center and never eeceived a reply {BRAD STATES THAT THERE ARE 3 USERS THAT MONITOR HIS SUPPRT} all i know is that i sent the email stating the above about paying.</p>
<p>I am still awaiting money from my subscriber, {HENCE NO PAYMENT TO BRAD} forget GUIDO he called me a theif so NO payment to HIM,</p>
<p>Then all of a sudden i get blasted by everyone, about opening up JOKEBOXGIVEAWAY, then all of a sudden i get tones of emails with threats.</p>
<p>Do you all think im going to pay for it NOW.</p>
<p>The jokebox giveaway was opened so i could raise the rest of the money to pay for the software To date prior to opening the JOKEBOXGIVEAWAY i have just under $100 all i needed to do was grab a few signups and then speak to brad and get the mess sorted out.</p>
<p>SO as of now i dont think i should Pay the money to any of them because of there actions against me.</p>
<p>My Real Name isnt in question here the fact that i had purchased the scrip from someone other than the originator is in question.</p>
<p>Yes my PayPal account has been suspended but i know i have 180 days and then they have to payout to me anyway.</p>
<p>So ll i can say it that im sorry, not that any of you really care, you may all say im shi**ing it but im not, im not really bothered about going to the Pen at all, i think im big enought to look after myself.</p>
<p>So with all that said, im off look foorward to see some responses</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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