Illegal Giveaway Event Warning
Unfortunately we are currently dealing with a hacker and scammer inside the internet marketing scene. This guy is best known as Daniel Armstrong and he has stolen 2 of our scripts including the Giveaway Manager 2. Now he runs an illegal giveaway event with that at: http://jokeboxgiveaway.com/contributor.php
What’s going on?
Let’s begin with the explaination on what this person gave us after asking him about the unusual activity that we have spotted in our system.
Mr Daniel Armstrong receives an email from Michel Gerrard [giveawaypromoter@googlemail.com] telling him that he can get the Giveaway Manager 2 and the Giveaway Announcer Pro at a special discount. Mr. Gerrard sends Mr. Armstrong an email with an attached HTML file that holds 4 paypal buttons. The first button is an encrypted button for $97 that goes to givewaypromoter@googlemail as the paypal seller. The other 3 buttons are work-arounds with 5 cent payments (or similar low) that go to my (or my partners) email account (redirecting to the download page).
So Mr. Armstrong takes this special deal and pays the required amount through each of the 4 buttons. The payments show up in our database from the persons pasted below.
Richard Hulston info@ebooksgalore-hosting.co.uk
Denise Bayliss dtbayliss@hotmail.co.uk
The member in our database who gets these upsales has registered as pasted below.
Nutty Keith nuttykeith@googlemail.com
So as you can see, Mr. Armstrong must have used 2 different paypal accounts to make the payments. He has also signed up with a different name and email address at our website.
We have done some more research about the domains he owns and the names he has used to register these domains. We have sent him an email to explain where these weired payments come from and he replied with the above story. The email he replied from comes as pasted below.
From: Keith Burton [mailto:nuttykeith@googlemail.com]
Hmmm… thought his name was Daniel Armstrong or Nutty Keith… now I’m confused….
So we have Keith Burton who replies to a question that we have asked Mr. Armstrong about why he has signed up as Nutty Keith and payed for a $297 product with 5 cents only using 2 different email addresses with the names Richard Hulston and Denise Bayliss.
OK, we see there is something going on with this person. Yes, we are talking about one person here!
As I said, we have done some research and found a stolen copy of my Giveaway Announcer hosted at http://www.giveaways.jv-marketing.co.uk/
That’s a sub-domain of http://jv-marketing.co.uk/homepage.php
which is a Giveaway Event where many internet marketers have signed up. Means this person has your details including your passwords!
This person seems to be a very active “internet marketer”. He runs all kinds of scripts on his domain… all half setup… Did he pay for these???
http://www.dotcomallsorts.info
http://www.5dollarsecrets.net/
http://www.ebooksgalore.co.uk/
http://jv-marketing.co.uk/homepage.php
http://www.firesalemainia.co.uk/
http://www.sarahs-gifts.co.uk/
http://www.giveaways.jv-marketing.co.uk/
http://ebooksgalore-hosting.co.uk
http://www.jvmuk.co.uk
This person is also the owner of many names and addresses that he uses to register the domains for example:
Marie Ashwell
JV Marketing
Ebooksgalore
Daniel Armstrong
Shonda Armstrong
Rick Armstrong
Anthony Debney
Jason Debney
Keith Burton
Oscar Walters
John Walters
Jamie Walters
This person is of course not able to explain these things…
Now he runs our software illegally on http://jokeboxgiveaway.com/contributor.php
You can research all this with WhoIs lookups and draw your own conclusion. I’m sorry that I have to bother you with this stuff but I don’t want you to signup at his sites and have your name associated with a hacker.
Tags: daniel armstrong, giveaway event, jokebox giveaway, jv marketing, jv marketing co uk
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May 14th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
I believe I have signed up with a couple of these is this real,
SallyJo
May 14th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Thanks for the heads up. I hope he gets shut down for scamming people.
May 14th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Well, it seams that I’ve lost $27… But, considering this information you just gave us, he picked up a very appropriate name for his giveaway…
This guy must be stopped!
Next time he will steal something more valuable…
Regards,
Paul Mihai Pavel
May 14th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Hi Guido,
I remember the name(s) from a while back.
This was the chap that not only nicked your software, but also your content. His previous giveaway sales page was identical to the one you did with Davin, as I recall.
Good luck with your investigations and any subequent proceedings that you take.
May 14th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Hey Guido: Don’t sweat it man, anyone who is ticked because you exposed a fraud, a hacker, and a theif, well sir, they may deserve a bit of an investigation themselves. I personally would like to thank you for being the one to bring this to the attention of the rest of the internet world.
For you to put your own name and reputation on the line reporting this, makes me feel even more sure I’ve picked the right person to listen to.
Thanks Guido, I know I’ll be watching out for this “Person”.
Camille Thomson
May 14th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
how about letting New Scotland Yard know about him
May 14th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Thanks. I’ve seen his name before (Danial Armstrong). Thanks for the heads - up.
May 14th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Thanks for the warning. I hope everyone logs in and deletes their account before he goes ‘live’!
May 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
You know its sad when someone has to revert to hack. It makes it bad when you work hard for a quality product just to have a dishonest person still it. I will be be on the lookout and thanks for the heads up.
Ronald McCall
Ronald McCall’s last blog post..Is Social Marketing Really New?
May 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Thanks for the heads up Guido.
Looks like you have definitely done your homework on this one. This stuff is usually very hard to track, unless you know what you are doing. I have seen the name and some of the domains around and now I will definitely stay far away from them.
I have not signed up for the JokeBox Giveaway, but have signed up for some of his other giveaways in the past (never did do very good). I should have known something was up. Looks like I need to do some cleanup and probably change some passwords.
Again, thanks for all your hard work and keeping us notified.
May 14th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Have charges been laid? Otherwise, these are serious alligations that can come back at whoever is saying them without charges! (I think you have enough proof though.) Sometimes we have to be patient and let investigations happen; in order for criminals to receive the fullest punishment from law - and if a crime has been committed then I hope you get satisfaction.
Oh well, I do hope charges are laid because he is innocent until proven otherwise, and that is about what it takes to stop activity like this. (Not, saying I like it or agree… but this is North America and I live in a democratic society….)
We must be very careful with our sites security - that is the best thing to do from the get go - Good luck as I can feel from your words you are livid and I don’t blame you at all!
Good luck,
Terah Logan
May 14th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Thank Guido for the heads up….it’s sad there are people like this, whoever his name is……
one things for sure….he stole the script…who knows what he is doing with the giveways…and what about the email get got from the person who sent him the “special offer” for giveaway manager? Was it a lie, or another person involved?
thanks again, I’ll post this up on my blog as well
Joe
http://www.IMwithJoe.com
Joe’s last blog post..Secure Income System by Brian Wynn
May 14th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Thanks for the heads up Guido ~
I’ve found at least one instance of the names/email above in my A/R and promptly removed. And I would suggest others do the same.
Some of these names seem extremely familiar and I intend to check more thoroughly to see if there’s any similar activity on my accounts, etc.
Thanks for the valuable info and not hesitating to speak up!
Stephanie
May 14th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Thank you for the warning,I’ll print-out a “blacklist” and keep it nearby,for reference, when I’m online.I don’t much care for dishonesty,especially when so much that goes on online is down to trust.I sincerely hope that you succeed in getting this individual shut down,perhaps a word to his ISP or Hosting Agency?
Good Luck in your efforts,
Jeff Jones
May 14th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Please remove this Posting from your website, i have taken a screenshot of the website and this information will be passed to my solicitors to take legal action
You have 48 Hours to remove this Blog entry before i take legal action
May 14th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I think Terah has a good point. If charges are not laid against this individual you could easily find yourself facing a lawsuit. Although the laws of Libel/Defamation vary from country to country most would, I am sure, not look favourably on the kind of comments that you have made (Even though it looks as though you have ample evidence). Protect yourself by involving the police - let them investigate with your assistance and bring this individual to justice.
Thanks for the heads up and good luck in whatever you decide to do.
Brian
http://www.pinp4u.com
May 14th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Contact Google too - here’s his I.D. pub-8113248550
Maybe withdrawing Google’s services will slow him down.
May 14th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Mr Armstrong,
how about you remove the stolen scripts from your domain? How about paying for software that you use? Call your lawyers if you want, you can find my contact information on my websites (unlike yours these are real).
May 14th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Thank you very much for the information. Now unfortunately it is time to circulate an email across to all of the people who have signed up to this event. It is really a shame that there are people like this out there. I guess that is what our world is coming to.
May 14th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Hi Guido.
Thanks for the heads up. I received an email about the jokeboxgiveaway just yesterday, I gave it the once over but didn’t like the look of it so didn’t sign up. Wow how pleased I am right now.
You must have charges brought against this guy. I’m sure if you notify his Internet service provider what he is up to, they too will investigate and quite possibly close him down.
This could just be the icing on the cake, if he has done all this, just what else is he capable of?
Best wishes
JD
May 14th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Well done Guido.
Seems that Mr Amstrong/Daniel doesn’t like it. He only has to show his
$297 receipt. It is so easy. But if he can’t, I think he will pay more to his
solicitors.
Agnes
May 14th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
I remember the name Keith Baxter. Isn’t there some way to nail him for stealing your script? What about the copyright laws?
Thanks for letting us know!
Aloha,
June
May 14th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Guido, Thanks a lot for the information. Is there anything
that we can do to help get this kind of stuff stopped? I am
going to watching what I do more closely. Does anyone
know if there is a place to check to see if something is
a scam? I’ve been scammed to the tune of $197 recently
and I don’t want it to happen again.
Thank you very much for the info.
May 14th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Holy cow, I have seen all but 5 of those names in the past and present. I will be sure to keep my distance. Thank you for the information and being straight with us.
Mae
May 14th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Hi Guido,
I took the liberty of linking to Bad Smith’s post /blog in a private forum I frequent because some of the domains you’ve listed abover are very similar to some of the forum members….
Here is what Mickey J of dotcomallsort.COM replied to the post I made….
==
I know of that idiot Anthony Debney.
He had a very bad habit of cloning sites and stealing software.
He cloned my websites a while ago ….
… literally IDENTICAL versions of Big Fat Web Hosting and other sites.
First I heard about it was an irate web hosting customer who didn’t like me forking him about!
I checked my customer base and he wasn’t one of them.
Turned out that Debney had registered the domain name bigfathosting.co.uk (mine is bigfatwebhosting.co.uk ) and had built an identical site with all logos etc.
Only difference was that he’d replaced any occasions of Mikey J with Anthony Debney.
I told the customer that it wasn’t me and that Debney was a fraud.
This customer had only signed up with him because he’s heard of Big Fat Web Hosting by word of mouth and thought that idiot’s site was it.
I had to almost take legal action against him.
Trading standards were involved too.
And I had to go through the process of stopping him from copycatting similar domain names.
Of course, Godaddy and NamesCo didn’t give a toss and done nothing about it though.
I guess I didn’t have a big enough company to throw weight.
I bet if he copycatted ebay or google domain names, they’d soon take action.
If ANYBODY here has been conned or copycatted by this idiot, I have his postal address if you need it for any legal action.
==
Feel free to contact me if you require the postal address and I’ll pass the info to Mickey to get back to you … or get in touch with MikeyJ at http://www.dotcomallsorts.com - he has a contact page there.
And thanks for bringing it into the open Guido - it seems this character has a history !!!
Best Regards
Randy Smith
http://www.SalesLetterABC.com
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May 14th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Thanks for the warning! And he’s got the nerve to sue you instead huh! You know you’re doing the right thing. I like the way you responded to him.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Hi Guido,
Thanks for the warning.
Yes, I did log in and delete my account!
Hope everyone do that!
Luckily I don’t upgrade! Save me $27! Haha…
Best Regards,
Ken Sar
http://www.imunselfish.com/blowout
May 14th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
I hate to hear you got ripped off. There are so many of us that work hard at getting our products ready for quality Giveaways. Thank you for reporting this to, and, for us.
I am so glad you caught these JERKS (I’m bring nice) before he got more of us sucked into his scam. I will definitely spread the word at the forum of the: http://www.turbomembership.biz so my fellow forum friends won’t burned by them.
Thanks again,
Neil
May 14th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Just to let everybody know, that Mr. Armstrong has committed another crime. Now he offers the download of our software for free on his domains. No need to tell you that this will also be handed over to the FBI and the police. Maybe we can catch him as I think he is located in the UK and that goes under the European law. Below is the email that he just sent out to his list, of course without mentioning his name.
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Amongst the alledged alligations that have been made against me, i feel it fair that i retaliate back, i have decided to broadcast the 2 download links to The software that they say i have stolen.
Download Giveaway Manager 2 From **Download Link Removed**
Download Giveaway Announcer Pro from **Download Link Removed**
Have fun i know that someone will want to download the software forr FREE as i have had 14 emails asking me to sell the software to them.
If you really want the software send me a email and i will send you the password to open it
Thanks
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May 14th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Hi Guido,
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to let us all know what’s going.
I’m wondering if you could run a sort of “official giveaways” website that people who have purchased your script could get your official endorsement? That way when promotions come out using your script we could check with the site and find out if its run by a legit marketer or some scoundrel.
Just a thought
Ray Burton
http://www.your-traffic-booster.com
May 15th, 2008 at 12:11 am
On Rentacoder, many people are requesting Duplicate sites from web designers. Maybe Rentacoder should be more responsible and ban these requests, and web designers from copying sites.
May 15th, 2008 at 2:55 am
Thanks for the heads up on the rustler. He does need to be caught and dealt with. As marketers we are all involved and we need try and keep as many people away from his sites as possible.
Thanks
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May 15th, 2008 at 6:34 am
Thanks for the info, Guido. It’s good to see people standing up for themselves, their good name and their products. Hopefully, he’ll get shut down soonest.
I also find it hysterical that he tried to threaten you!
What a schweinehund!
May 15th, 2008 at 7:49 am
Hey Guido.
Thanks for the heads up. I can’t believe people do this sort of stuff man.
Glad to see that people like you do something about it - else this kind of crime will just proliferate.
Look forward to an update and hopefully a happy conclusion to a very ugly situation.
Thanks again - hope you nail this guy.
Regards,
Doug.
May 15th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Hi Guido,
thanks for this extensive info and warning! I’m sure gathering all the info was not done in minutes. So this guy not only has stolen your software but wasted your time and the time of many people who thought this was a legitimate JV.
Good to know it better now. I hope that nobody promote this dubious guy with his giveaway. I will delete my account there by now.
But what to do to prevent such things in the futute? Is there any possibility to got this guy off the internet? Someone wrote to give your results of investigation to police…
Good luck,
Udo
May 15th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Wow - good to see you trying to get this scammer closed down. Hope you succeed, won’t his hosting comany sort it out and close him down?
Anyway wish you good luck these idiots should be stopped.
All the best
Mike
May 15th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I’m very sorry what had happened to you.
But I promise you not to join the Jokebox.
May 15th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
As the one that caught and reported the Giveaway running the Illegally Obtained Software I find it SAD that anyone would be stupid enough to:
1. Think they would not get caught.
2. Have the balls to think they could get away with it.
3. Make an even Greater Mistake of thinking that by sending out an email offering Illegally Obtained Software is not against the Law.
4. Sending me of All People an Email with Passwords to unlock the Illegally Obtained Software files and not thinking that that can be used as Evidence.
5. Showing up here and posting to remove this thread and that he is taking Legal Action.
6. Posts on here his his deluted thoughts if that is what you can call them.
I could go on, but since everyone already knows he is an IDIOT I don’t think I need to.
Regards,
Scott Drake
MarketersFileVault.com
May 16th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Will you all stop moaning NOW.
Its getting quite BORING NOW, and to be honest im sitting here typing this and having fun at watching all you lot make your comments.
Scott Drake, tut tut tut so now i know where to head now.
Brad Smith
Guido Nussam
If whoever i sent the information to changes the script to suit there needs, and correct me if im wrong, they only need to change at least 30% to claim the script as there own.
I dont know what your all moaning about the script that they have used to create the GWM2 is from JV Automater, all they have done is customize that script to there own, to which i will be doing and then i will send it out for FREE to anyone who wants it.
You say you have a total list of all my domain names well there are quite a few that you have missed out, maybe they are linked to a different server and with my correct details.
You will never find them, as they are also on a different server IP address, also the so called IP addressess you have are all Wireless ones and not my actual Home Ip Address.
You see i have all tracks covered do you really think im that stupid.
Also library’s are good to use as they are free
I hope you get your result in closing the name website down, infact im taking all info from them now and removing all info from my server.
As im already on the net trading and in all your lists on giveaway events offering gifts.
So good luck and stop boring me with your comments
PS look out for DOS
May 16th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Looks like someone is getting nervous.
For someone who doesn’t care he sure seems to be in a hurry to remove all of his personal details from wherever he can.
May 16th, 2008 at 9:49 am
No im not nervous at all.
Just making sure that i have everything under control,
In fact im moving all info from that server to a new one, so i have every thing to hand when i get home, and i can start on some very interesting Projects.
You all know what im talking about dont you.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
HAHAHA!!!!!!
Talk about unprofessional conduct- Prime Example Here!
Do you honestly think YOU are the only Website in existence that has had their products stolen and used elsewhere? Think again!
Let me give you a few much needed lessons:
1) Your Giveaway Announcer is available on (in my opinion) at least 7 hack websites that I frequent. On one of the forums alone, your software has been downloaded over 300 times. How impressive is that. I don’t own it….I never saw the need for it.
2) Big Marketers Lose products to hackers all the time- You don’t see them COMPLAIN on their BLOGS.
3) Did you know that products costing ($2000) can be found easily if you just look hard enough online. What does that mean for you?
* Some lost profits- but ultimately most people pay for the stuff
* More traffic- at least 2 out of 10 “hackers” become legitimate customers
How do I know this?
Because there are forums dedicated to finding every damn software available. People go as far as pooling their money together to buy one membership so hundreds will receive the benefit of it.
My solution:
Don’t worry about one person.
Realistically you should make enough money to not worry about a few losses.
If you complain then I can assume you hardly make money and therefore your system/software is flawed.
Some clever internet marketers do not care if people find their stuff…
Prime example is top guys I know…I can literally find their products within a minute.
In the end if the product is worth its weight in gold, the person will buy if its in their interest.
So I hope you learned something valuable.
Keep up the good work and perhaps I will even download your software.
May 17th, 2008 at 1:20 am
I have never said i was going to physically touch you Mr Drake NOW did i now.
I have no interest in what ever disease you have or what is wrong with you, so saying something like that to me im not really bothered about your problems.
Go ahead and visit the address that is stated above, im not sure who is living there but im sure if you go around to his address i bet hed have something to say to you wouldn’t he.
You see im actually on a wireless connection at the moment, and every thing i do on the internet is down over wireless unless i need to get bigger files then i visit the library, so you see, registering domains and doing what i do won’t come back to me, it will come back to those whos wireless connection it is.
For the sake of around $400 for digital theft isnt going to damage my life at all, yes i have been around using different names to sign up to giveaways and other websites and i know of alot of other internet users who do the same, its not illegal to do that.
You see the thing that gets me is that every one who posts on blogs and the warrior forum, think that im a nasty person, well who are they to judge me, i bet you and everyone else has some relation who is a criminal or knows of someone who has been to the Pen, so you see if i can stir up so much trouble for a measily $400 bucks then what kind of trouble would i get into if i took something for $500???
You wanna know the main reason why this has come about.
I dindnt hack around the paypal buttons on any of the sites, of course i was interested in the Giveaway manager who isnt its a good peice of internet marketers Kit.#
I was originally sent a email from a subscriber who is on quite alot of lists, the email went on to ask me if i wanted a copy of Giveaway Manager and Giveaway Announcer, for a reduced price, of course i jumped before i thought about it.
The email stated that i was to join both site to which i had already done so, and once i had joined i was to send my ID to the person, he then sent me a html document with the PayPal Payment options on it, i had to pay Hime $97 and then i would have to pay for the 2 bits of software.
Once i paid him for the software, and paid the sites thers i would be able to download the software from within the sites but would have to wait upto 1 hour.
To be quite honest i didnt really think much at the time, i just went ahead and paid for it.
Guess what my email inbox was hit with messages From Brad And Guido, telling me i had hacked around the paypal buttons {NOT ME}.
I then sent Guido some info and he basically told me i was lying, HENCE i dint send the money.
Then Brad steps in and i explain all the above to him, i then get given 7 days to pay for the software, {NO NOT YET} i wasnt going to loose my money and then pay for the software, {NO NO NO i carnt do that}.
I emailed brads support center and never eeceived a reply {BRAD STATES THAT THERE ARE 3 USERS THAT MONITOR HIS SUPPRT} all i know is that i sent the email stating the above about paying.
I am still awaiting money from my subscriber, {HENCE NO PAYMENT TO BRAD} forget GUIDO he called me a theif so NO payment to HIM,
Then all of a sudden i get blasted by everyone, about opening up JOKEBOXGIVEAWAY, then all of a sudden i get tones of emails with threats.
Do you all think im going to pay for it NOW.
The jokebox giveaway was opened so i could raise the rest of the money to pay for the software To date prior to opening the JOKEBOXGIVEAWAY i have just under $100 all i needed to do was grab a few signups and then speak to brad and get the mess sorted out.
SO as of now i dont think i should Pay the money to any of them because of there actions against me.
My Real Name isnt in question here the fact that i had purchased the scrip from someone other than the originator is in question.
Yes my PayPal account has been suspended but i know i have 180 days and then they have to payout to me anyway.
So ll i can say it that im sorry, not that any of you really care, you may all say im shi**ing it but im not, im not really bothered about going to the Pen at all, i think im big enought to look after myself.
So with all that said, im off look foorward to see some responses
Thanks
May 17th, 2008 at 2:23 am
Come on you guys… be realistic. I’m not complaining that someone has stolen an ebook or a simple mini application. I didn’t even do much wth the stolen copy of the Giveaway Announcer that’s running for a long time already on his domains.
The point here is that he runs a giveaway event with a stolen software. He basically invites us to come and join his event and to promote for him… that’s more than rude.
He just could have done marketing under his real name and ask for a JV or something. Every newbie, especially with his energy, can make it to a big marketer. But sorry, here is no space for scammers… internet marketing means building up trust with our customers and we need to work hard for that.
Guido
May 17th, 2008 at 4:10 am
Think you missed one:
DLVINEYARD@HOTMAIL.COM
He is one sending email regarding the $39.00 super gallery.
The website is too much and looks very suspicious!
No need to save this one he will BURN!!!!
May 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
The point here is he/she/it is a thief! Right down and dirty, a thief. I do not care HOW much money someone has, it’s NOT complaining about it to tell others about being scammed. These guys are doing this to expose this so WE do not get scammed.
We where scammed to the tune of$2,500; it’s why I’m poor now; the reason I must start over. And I did broadcast it to all I could at the time.
We all need to stick together and boot these a**holes off the net.This is our society, so to speak, and we are gonna half to police it, because the cops don’t. At least, not for this!
Trust is the basis of our businesses on the net. No matter how big or small you are, if people begin to distrust you for any reason, it can and does spread like wild fire; just look at this blog!
One person blogs there distrust to someones else’s public blog and it goes crazy! Next thing it’s all over the net, and that person’s good name is smeared.
A lot of people get on here and hide behind other names, claiming it’s for there security. I do not believe in that, I feel we should use our real names, since we have nothing to hide. Do you go to McDonald’s and tell someone there you name is Sam when it’s Tom? Why not? Because if you come face to face with them at a friends house, how are you going to explain why you lied? And, will they really ever trust you after that?
When someone uses your good name and rep to build a shady spot for themselves, we SHOULD cut down there tree and remove there stump from the net!!
May 19th, 2008 at 2:18 am
Hello everyone
I’ve been watching all of the comments and certainly do appreciate that someone/everyone is keeping an eye out for people that feel that they need to do things the easy way.
I launched my site back in March and have seen very little success (blushing) actually NO success. I knew when I got into launching my site that I wouldn’t see any success for some time. I work hard at trying to make it successful and am constantly looking for the right products.
What bothers me about this whole thing, is that I work hard (almost 16 hours a day) to create a site that’s going to succeed. I’m also disabled so I don’t have the cash to throw away, especially on products that aren’t doing anything for me.
Because I’m on a limited income I have to advertise through FFA ads, Traffic Exchanges (which can be very tedious if you don’t have the time for a Manual Exchange), Safelists and any other venue out there.
I receive about 1000 emails a day due to the safelist programs and I have to click on every email if I want to get points so that I can advertise. Some days that’s all I do is click, click, click. As I’ve told you before…. I spend about 16 hours a day on my computer in hopes of someday becoming successful.
It’s because of my hard work that I know I’ll be successful sometime in the near future (I hope). I know that I have to restructure my site in order to start building a mailing list. My challenge is that I don’t know how to work with php and cgi. I have to go through the task of learning everything from scratch as this is my first time ever trying to become an IM.
I guess what I’m trying to convey is that with hard work and due diligence anyone can become a success. You shouldn’t have to be in a position to take someone elses work and claim it as your own without the rights to do so. Part of what’s going on with IM is building a credible relationship with everyone. I’m just in my infancy stage right now so that’s something I’m trying to do with every safelist mailing that I send out. Even being on a fixed income, I’m taking the time to do everything the right way. Personally I’d love to be a part of a Joint Venture Giveaway just to get my name out there. I know I have enough products to do so. My only challenge is having a list to advertise the event to other than the safelists, and I don’t know if that qualifies.
All I can say at this point is… put an honest effort into your work and build your reputation by providing things honestly.
As for the rest of you guys out there…. thanks for the heads up. I recognize quite a few names here and look forward to doing business with you.
For now I’m just going keep my eyes open for anything or anyone that comes across as suspicious to me.
Again… put in the honest work and you can become sucessful in time (name??)
Good luck everyone
Vince
May 19th, 2008 at 2:57 am
Hi Vince,
you are definately on a path to success… the actions you take are exactly what I’ve done just a couple of months ago. Now it’s time for you to implement further strategies like blogging, social marketing, bookmarking and of course being a contributor to giveaway events.
As a giveaway contributor you want to build your own opt-in list. It doesn’t matter if you don’t have any signups yet… you know how to promote the events through safelists, click exchanges etc. so that’s fine. After your first giveaway event you’ll have a small list, so that with your next event you can sponsor more people, get a higher gift listing and therefore even more signups.
If you haven’t had a look at my latest creation the Profit Work From Home, then you should go there now as it’s the perfect place for you to get further with your marketing: http://www.profitworkfromhome.com
Let me know if you have any questions.
Guido Nussbaum
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 am
Hey Vince,
I remember the 16 hour workdays, I still do them now and again and heaven knows I have tons of work ahead of me. Let me take a look at your website and see if I can ‘restructure your site. I’m not expert but I do like to dink around building websites. And, you need to get away from safelists ect… Don’t waste anymore of your time clicking. You have a real commitment but you need to take a different direction.
Take Guidos advice with the blogging, social sites and join the profit work from home site. It’s really a great way to start.
And to Daniel , There’s no time like the present to come clean and redeem your self. There is no honor and no dignity and it doesn’t matter how big you are, in the pen, everyone gets it up the but.
June 15th, 2008 at 3:18 am
..go get ‘im, before he make money..:)
June 15th, 2008 at 4:40 am
I am sorry to hear about your predicament.. i have seen his name at many places before.. he even contacted me once to join his giveaway, i think..
Hopefully, you somehow manage to get this guy stopped ..
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